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Posted: 31-08-2010 07:46 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Hi all,

Following a PM I just wanted to ensure everyone understands the effect of the ACCA new syllabus.

From June 2011 F7 and P2 will NOT be offered on a UK GAAP basis.

UK GAAP is gone from new syllabus.

There will still be a UK option but it is a IFRS GAAP syllabus

so in 2011

F7/P2 UK = IFRS with UK law (companies act 2006)

F7/P2 INT = IFRS generic

Either way you study IFRS!!

There is no point entering F3 UK this December…it is still UK GAAP and going no where!

I hope that makes sense

Clare

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Posted: 01-09-2010 10:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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thanks claire, i still dont know why they have both of them, the differences are so minor and must be more admin work at there end !

but really and truly will there be any difference to the exam its self or will it simply be a removal of the UK variant

oh and which one is going to be easier smile

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Posted: 01-09-2010 07:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Worth going with P2 INT in December then? I’d say so as there’s a high chance of a resit which would mean doing INT in June ‘11 anyway!

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Posted: 02-09-2010 01:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Mdam - September 01 2010 07:45 PM

Worth going with P2 INT in December then? I’d say so as there’s a high chance of a resit which would mean doing INT in June ‘11 anyway!

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Posted: 02-09-2010 09:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Well for P2 I don’t think there will be any difference in difficulty level.

However for those opting for P7 and planning to get registered auditor status currently any variant is Ok..but from new syllabus if you want to be a registered auditor in the UK you need P7 UK (remember its all IFRS) but UK paper has an extra topic from next summer…insolvency..so P7 UK will be a bit harder, but necessary for registered auditor ambitions…

P2…makes no real difference..both IFRS papers!!

I agree with mdam re doing INT this december…no resits for UK GAAP!!

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Clare

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Posted: 03-09-2010 11:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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c finch - September 02 2010 09:41 PM

Well for P2 I don’t think there will be any difference in difficulty level.

However for those opting for P7 and planning to get registered auditor status currently any variant is Ok..but from new syllabus if you want to be a registered auditor in the UK you need P7 UK (remember its all IFRS) but UK paper has an extra topic from next summer…insolvency..so P7 UK will be a bit harder, but necessary for registered auditor ambitions…

P2…makes no real difference..both IFRS papers!!

I agree with mdam re doing INT this december…no resits for UK GAAP!!

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Clare

phew on the auditor front as I dont fancy being an auditor

thanks c finch we love you

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Posted: 15-09-2010 08:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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I suspect we will always have UK variant papers, because for ACCA to be officially “endorsed” in the UK as a Recognised Qualifying Body, it has to show that UK required laws and regulations are in the syllabus and being tested. That means UK audit standards, UK ethics, UK corporate governance, UK law.

The switch to IFRS works (for UK streams) because the UK listed companies are using the actual IFRS (unlike auditing, ethics etc. where the UK is using UK versions of the international standards).

The annoying thing is that UK audit standards, ethics etc are virtually identical to international. The UK retains control by having its own standards, but so far is basically just copying the international ones.

But laws will always be country specific, so any paper affected by laws (and audit and FR papers always will be) is likely to keep its own variants.

My preference would be for anything legal to be pushed down to lower level papers, so we can at least scrap the UK variants on P2 and P7 - but I seem to be in a minority on this one!

The addition of Insolvency to the P7 (UK) syllabus is interesting. The syllabus has only 1 additional sub area, and only 5 additional learning outcomes. Given there are approximately 120 learning outcomes, and the Insolvency ones look fairly knowledge-based (if you can explain them, you will be ok I suspect, not much application needed), I doubt the UK paper will be noticeably harder.

Although time will tell!

Happy studying

Paul

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