They definitely aren’t shown on the certificate.

Phew, thanks for letting me know that guys!

Know all Ive gotta hope is my future employer isnt nosy enough to inquire after individual subject marks lol. I suppose they dont usually because who has the time for such details and I suppose you’ve got to trust the people you work with anyway. Either way, I suppose if someone did ask me I’d tell them the truth because I dont believe I got anything less than I deserved and there’s no point in keeping people under delusions about myself.

Now, look at my well developed ethical values you bloody ACCA people and pass me in my bloody exams!!!!

Is it true?

People from Deloitte came today in our college, They said they only take Acca affliates and those who have passed papers in first attempt !

I guess they look at the number of sessions a person took to pass? Like normally if you sit 3 papers you should take 5 sessions. So i guess thats what they look for ?

that’s not what your message says, it says they look for first time passes!

I would say your run more of a risk of not getting those first time passes if you try and take too much on by finishing quickly.

I suppose they could ask for a copy of your exam results notifications and/or ask for your permission to contact ACCA for your info.

Hmm, But they get so many applicants, I dont think they would go to acca with all the applicants and check if they have passed first time or not..

This whole thread is still really annoying me.

Either you have first time passes or you don’t. There should be no further issue regarding this matter - hypothetical or otherwise.

It shouldn’t be an issue. If you don’t have 1st time passes you shouldn’t be claiming that you do. If you do have first time passes you shouldn’t, and I expect wouldn’t, want to claim that you don’t.

I worked really hard for my first time passes and it really gets right on my nerves to think that someone without them would claim 1st time passes just to CHEAT their way up the career ladder.

If any of you are even considering claiming 1st time passes when you don’t have them I hope you ‘reap what you sow’ further down the line.

Like this job market isn’t hard enough as it is without people making life even more difficult for those with the integrity to tell the truth.

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Lol. Calm down

I have all first time passes so far.

I just want to make sure because alot of my friends dont have first time passes and the guy from deloitte said that they will only take people who have passed first time and when i told my friends about it they all laughed and said that they cant check if you have passed first time or not anyway.

And I hope you’re now going to tell your friends that laughed that they need to refer to ethical conduct.

Yours in disgust,

The_Poster_Formerly_Known_As_The_Reverend

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alamode - February 26 2009 11:59 AM

Hmm, But they get so many applicants, I dont think they would go to acca with all the applicants and check if they have passed first time or not..

No, not all, just as one of the final parts of the recruitment once the conditional offer of a job has been issued. Perhaps just to check the documents you’ve provided are genuine.

But they could go to ACCA with all applicants that get past the first stage - it only takes one cover letter and a list of applicants pulled off the HR system.

From a first time pass ACCA member

I guess in the main there’s a chance that you wouldn’t get found out if you lied about first time passes.

But what does it say about your integrity if you are willing to lie about it - I firmly believe that what goes around comes around and people who lie and cheat will get their comeuppance!

There are plenty of companies that don’t ask for first time passes, why not try one of those?  Then integrity intact and no risk to professionalism.

Or did you friends just pay lip service to what they have learned during their studies?

The_Horse - February 26 2009 12:15 PM

This whole thread is still really annoying me.

Either you have first time passes or you don’t. There should be no further issue regarding this matter - hypothetical or otherwise.

It shouldn’t be an issue. If you don’t have 1st time passes you shouldn’t be claiming that you do. If you do have first time passes you shouldn’t, and I expect wouldn’t, want to claim that you don’t.

I worked really ****ing hard for my first time passes and it really gets right on my big hairy **** to think that someone without them would claim 1st time passes just to CHEAT their way up the career ladder.

If any of you are even considering claiming 1st time passes when you don’t have them I hope you ‘reap what you sow’ further down the line.

Like this job market isn’t hard enough as it is without scumbags and bull****ers making life even more difficult for those with the integrity to tell the truth.

LIARS = SCUM. End of!

a) did you HAVE to reply to this post?
b) have a little look at your post and consider whether it was a tad ridiculous or not?
c) consider why you are studying exams. It is to benefit YOU and YOU only, as it is with all of us. If you choose to work ‘really hard’ this is all good, it is for you and noone else.

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This thread is getting a bit heated and we feel needs to be brought back in line.

We have removed offending words/disguised expletives where necessary to avoid offence and to remain impartial to you guys.

Thanks (and please keep it clean)

Steve

The point isnt about lying though, The point is whether they should be applying or not because the big 4 firms over here take first time passed students and quite alot of my friends dont have first time passes. Infact hardly anyone i know has first time passes everyone has failed in one paper atleast once. You can say 90% of the students have had 1 paper failed in acca somewhere along the line.

For CA the deloitte people told us that they are only taking people who have passed in the first attempt or the 2nd attempt.. Basically the system of CA over here is 4 modules in 2 years and then 2 more modules with articleship so you do your articleship after you are done with the first 4 modules in 2 years. So they told us they only accept applicants who have completed their 4 modules in 2 years or 2.5 years at the most. I guess there must be some sort of flexibility in ACCA too then.

Mdam - February 26 2009 03:37 PM

The_Horse - February 26 2009 12:15 PM

This whole thread is still really annoying me.

Either you have first time passes or you don’t. There should be no further issue regarding this matter - hypothetical or otherwise.

It shouldn’t be an issue. If you don’t have 1st time passes you shouldn’t be claiming that you do. If you do have first time passes you shouldn’t, and I expect wouldn’t, want to claim that you don’t.

I worked really ****ing hard for my first time passes and it really gets right on my big hairy **** to think that someone without them would claim 1st time passes just to CHEAT their way up the career ladder.

If any of you are even considering claiming 1st time passes when you don’t have them I hope you ‘reap what you sow’ further down the line.

Like this job market isn’t hard enough as it is without scumbags and bull****ers making life even more difficult for those with the integrity to tell the truth.

LIARS = SCUM. End of!

a) did you HAVE to reply to this post?
b) have a little look at your post and consider whether it was a tad ridiculous or not?
c) consider why you are studying exams. It is to benefit YOU and YOU only, as it is with all of us. If you choose to work ‘really hard’ this is all good, it is for you and noone else.

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Re:
A) It’s a forum where the integirty of my chosen profession is being dragged through the mud. I feel/felt I had every right and duty to respond

B) If you think being upset about a lack of integrity in your fellow professionals is ridiuculous I think you need to take a long hard look at whether you should be an accountant. The whole profession is based on public and professional trust. If accountants and PQs can’t be trusted to be open and honest about our own passes, or failures, then where does that leave the profession as a whole?

C) Yes I chose to study exams for my own benefit. But I didn’t study exams to benefit at the expense of others. If you claim merit for 1st time passes where you have none then you are potentially getting jobs at the expense of your fellow professionals when you should not. Yes I want to succeed, but on the basis of genuine success. And I DO NOT THINK IT’S ACCEPTABLE TO LIE, BEND THE TRUTH OR WITHHOLD INFORMATION IN ORDER TO GET A POSITION I’M NOT ENTITLED TO, BE IT AT THE EXPENSE OF SOMEONE ELSE OR NOT.

Finally, accountants are afforded a certain status in our society. That’s why we have a heavily regulated exam process and profession. Being an accountant is not just for yourself, it’s for others as well, be that HMRC, the public trust, your employer, the GOvernment or society’s benefit as a whole. IT IS NOT JUST A WAY TO MAKE A BUCK!

Anyone on here with 1st time passes would be disgusted that they may be being passed pver because other, so called professional, ‘accountants’ are claiming to have merit which they do not in order to gain / apply for employment.