The above issues are ridiculous. Going as far as forging something is too much. My original question was whether a firm could find out about 1st time passes, I never mentioned forgery!

Well, sorry for the misconception. You should know this kinda question would brings loads of outrageous answers.

Mdam - February 09 2009 01:25 PM

The_Reverend - February 09 2009 11:05 AM

Starfish - February 09 2009 10:21 AM

I have read on another forum that the ACCA do get asked about 1st time passes from employers and they do reveal if passed 1st time or not.

If that’s true then good. The very fact that this has been raised means someone somewhere has considered whether or not they should claim 1st time passes when they don’t have them. It shoudln’t need the ACCA to do this though. People should have the integrity to be straight with potential employers, and as such, their fellow professionals.

I assume that this doesn’t contravene any data protection regulations then?

If the person being asked would not give permission for the information to be released surely this calls in to question their honesty in the first place?  After all it’s only a reference to back up what they have stated about their professional qualification.

If the employer found out afterwards its grounds for dismissal, so I suggest only stating 1st time passes if true.

Mdam - February 11 2009 12:20 AM

The above issues are ridiculous. Going as far as forging something is too much. My original question was whether a firm could find out about 1st time passes, I never mentioned forgery!

But lying would be ok would it?

This whole thread disgusts me. There is absolutely no reason to even want to know about this unless you, or someone you know, has considered this as a possibility. It’s like saying “I’d hypothetically like to know how to make a nail bomb” and not expect the police to be suspicious (why on earth would you need to know?).

What really gets on my nerves is that I spend all my time working hard to get ahead in life. I study like a lunatic and I’m as honest as the day is long and yet I’m struggling to find work. And I wouldn’t mind betting that this is partially because I’m up against competitors (i.e. other candidates) who are probably claiming first time passes or dressing up their previous work experience as something it really isn’t.

I know those who would lie to get a job wouldn’t lose any sleep over this anyway but I’d rather spend my lifetime poor and struggling than BS my way into a job. What price integrity eh?

It’s times like this I wish I was religious. At least then I could comfort myself in the idea that the sort of scumbags who’d lie and cheat themselves into work will have some tough questions to answer come judgement day.

The_Reverend - February 11 2009 02:04 AM

Mdam - February 11 2009 12:20 AM

The above issues are ridiculous. Going as far as forging something is too much. My original question was whether a firm could find out about 1st time passes, I never mentioned forgery!

But lying would be ok would it?

This whole thread disgusts me. There is absolutely no reason to even want to know about this unless you, or someone you know, has considered this as a possibility. It’s like saying “I’d hypothetically like to know how to make a nail bomb” and not expect the police to be suspicious (why on earth would you need to know?).

I have never done this, do not intend to and don’t know anyone who has. It was really meant as a general question

What really gets on my nerves is that I spend all my time working hard to get ahead in life. I study like a lunatic and I’m as honest as the day is long and yet I’m struggling to find work. And I wouldn’t mind betting that this is partially because I’m up against competitors (i.e. other candidates) who are probably claiming first time passes or dressing up their previous work experience as something it really isn’t.

I know those who would lie to get a job wouldn’t lose any sleep over this anyway but I’d rather spend my lifetime poor and struggling than BS my way into a job. What price integrity eh?

It’s times like this I wish I was religious. At least then I could comfort myself in the idea that the sort of scumbags who’d lie and cheat themselves into work will have some tough questions to answer come judgement day.

Mdam - February 11 2009 05:06 AM

The_Reverend - February 11 2009 02:04 AM

Mdam - February 11 2009 12:20 AM

The above issues are ridiculous. Going as far as forging something is too much. My original question was whether a firm could find out about 1st time passes, I never mentioned forgery!

But lying would be ok would it?

This whole thread disgusts me. There is absolutely no reason to even want to know about this unless you, or someone you know, has considered this as a possibility. It’s like saying “I’d hypothetically like to know how to make a nail bomb” and not expect the police to be suspicious (why on earth would you need to know?).

I have never done this, do not intend to and don’t know anyone who has. It was really meant as a general question

Well that’s brilliant. As long as you sincerely mean that then your conscience is clear.

“Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practise to deceive.” (Sir Walter Scott)

Now this is becoming more interesting. Imagine struggling hard to be better yet some people short-cornered to be best. It is just the way the economy is designed now. Everyone is greedy, I want ‘em all, get it by any means attitude. No one cares about nobody. Funny enough the evil perpetrators always have a Plan B just in case they are caught. It’s sickening.

Michael Arch - February 10 2009 03:00 PM

There have been 2 or 3 people kicked out of CIMA for issues such as this.

1) A guy lied to his boss and forged papers saying he had passed exams
2) A guy was found sitting an exam with his notes
3) An asian guy was found guilty of getting someone else to sit his exam for him

Imagine ruining your career for something as stupid as one of the above reasons.

This is not what M’dam meant. You Guys are taking this out of proportion.

She was just asking herself a what if question. and Never said that she intended to do it.

So please Let come back to the Topic.

Hello Everyone,

I would just like to add in here that I called ACCA few weeks ago .. Thats when I registered for 2 papers but then had to sit only one because I was unexpectedly given 28 days notice to leave the house I was renting.

Someone told me that missing an exam is jus like failing ( which doesnt make sense actually) So I when I called ACCA the lady told me that if you dont sit a paper ... ABSENT is written on your result sheet ..which clearly is NOT the same as sitting and failing the paper. She went on saying that in the long run it doesnt matters whether you pass first time or 2nd/3rd time because once you clear all the papers .. the final result sheet that You will get from ACCA will only state PASS ( and the marks too i guess) But that wont state how many times u failed the paper before finally passing it.

So thats good !

Mdam - February 11 2009 12:20 AM

The above issues are ridiculous. Going as far as forging something is too much. My original question was whether a firm could find out about 1st time passes, I never mentioned forgery!

the short answer is yes they can

if someone hasnt pass their exams first time.so will it affect his job offers?

shheri - February 12 2009 12:26 PM

if someone hasnt pass their exams first time.so will it affect his job offers?

It may but it should not.

angelangelangel - February 11 2009 09:40 AM

Hello Everyone,

I would just like to add in here that I called ACCA few weeks ago .. Thats when I registered for 2 papers but then had to sit only one because I was unexpectedly given 28 days notice to leave the house I was renting.

Someone told me that missing an exam is jus like failing ( which doesnt make sense actually) So I when I called ACCA the lady told me that if you dont sit a paper ... ABSENT is written on your result sheet ..which clearly is NOT the same as sitting and failing the paper. She went on saying that in the long run it doesnt matters whether you pass first time or 2nd/3rd time because once you clear all the papers .. the final result sheet that You will get from ACCA will only state PASS ( and the marks too i guess) But that wont state how many times u failed the paper before finally passing it.

So thats good !

So our final ACCA certificate will show how many marks we scored in each paper? I didnt know that, and I dont like it because Ive already got a pass or two in the 50s.Lol

aimaad22 - February 13 2009 07:24 AM

angelangelangel - February 11 2009 09:40 AM

Hello Everyone,

I would just like to add in here that I called ACCA few weeks ago .. Thats when I registered for 2 papers but then had to sit only one because I was unexpectedly given 28 days notice to leave the house I was renting.

Someone told me that missing an exam is jus like failing ( which doesnt make sense actually) So I when I called ACCA the lady told me that if you dont sit a paper ... ABSENT is written on your result sheet ..which clearly is NOT the same as sitting and failing the paper. She went on saying that in the long run it doesnt matters whether you pass first time or 2nd/3rd time because once you clear all the papers .. the final result sheet that You will get from ACCA will only state PASS ( and the marks too i guess) But that wont state how many times u failed the paper before finally passing it.

So thats good !

So our final ACCA certificate will show how many marks we scored in each paper? I didnt know that, and I dont like it because Ive already got a pass or two in the 50s.Lol

i dont reckon employers will even ask for it half the time, i thiink they will just take your word

No Marks are shown on your certificates after you pass!

Andy