How would a firm actually find out if someone hasn’t passed their exams first time? I thought the results shet just showed exams passed and the score.

If an applicant stated, at an interview, that they had passed first time how would the firm check? Would ACCA be allowed to divulge?

Most of the time, employers don’t care if you passed first or second time but
if you are asked,I think through your ethic and professionalism you will tell them the truth.
But I don’t think the ACCA can divulge your results. However I think that Acca can
tell them which exams you’ve passed so far, without stating if it’s first time
or 2nd time or more….

What if you sit for 4 papers and passed three, that means you have to resit the other one. The following diet you passed the paper. If the potential employer demands to see your pass rates, you will surely have to submit the result sheets and the employer will see that you failed one of the papers in the previous and later passed it. Aight.

Surely you could just print off your ‘status report’ from myacca which details exams passed?

Ok, if they demand to see the results sheet then perhaps you are in a pickle..

Guy - February 09 2009 08:26 AM

I think through your ethic and professionalism you will tell them the truth.

I agree that this is what should happen. But some people are scum and have no problem lying (or ‘bending the truth’) in order to get ahead in life. The sad thing about this is that those who are scrupulously honest suffer as a consequence when they perhaps should not.

As far a I’m concerned this should be gross misconduct and would hope that if someone did this, and was found out, that they would be sacked. If I found out someone had done that at work I’d have no compunction in bringing this to the attention of management. The trouble is, by that stage, someone else who may have been equally capable of doing that job will have missed out on the opportunity. And why did they miss out? Because they weren’t prepared to cheat - some justice eh?

I would hope that everyone who is training to be an accountant would feel the same (but realistically, I know that this isn’t the case - no matter how many ethics modules they stick in the syllabus).

The_Reverend - February 09 2009 08:58 AM

I would hope that everyone who is training to be an accountant would feel the same (but realistically, I know that this isn’t the case - no matter how many ethics modules they stick in the syllabus).

This is a “chronic” personality issue bro. It’s just sad that the unfaithfuls prosper while the faithfuls suffer.

I have read on another forum that the ACCA do get asked about 1st time passes from employers and they do reveal if passed 1st time or not.

Starfish - February 09 2009 10:21 AM

I have read on another forum that the ACCA do get asked about 1st time passes from employers and they do reveal if passed 1st time or not.

If that’s true then good. The very fact that this has been raised means someone somewhere has considered whether or not they should claim 1st time passes when they don’t have them. It shoudln’t need the ACCA to do this though. People should have the integrity to be straight with potential employers, and as such, their fellow professionals.

there’s nothing wrong about failing.Did you know that companies ask if there were any special reasons why you didn’t make it?(e.g. E&Y,KPMG etc…)
It simply means that they understand that this can happen for different reasons.

If you are not taken because you didn’t pass first time then that employer doesn’t deserve you, there’s probably a better place for you elsewhere.
But tell them the true.

The_Reverend - February 09 2009 11:05 AM

Starfish - February 09 2009 10:21 AM

I have read on another forum that the ACCA do get asked about 1st time passes from employers and they do reveal if passed 1st time or not.

If that’s true then good. The very fact that this has been raised means someone somewhere has considered whether or not they should claim 1st time passes when they don’t have them. It shoudln’t need the ACCA to do this though. People should have the integrity to be straight with potential employers, and as such, their fellow professionals.

I assume that this doesn’t contravene any data protection regulations then?

Mdam - February 09 2009 01:25 PM

The_Reverend - February 09 2009 11:05 AM

Starfish - February 09 2009 10:21 AM

I have read on another forum that the ACCA do get asked about 1st time passes from employers and they do reveal if passed 1st time or not.

If that’s true then good. The very fact that this has been raised means someone somewhere has considered whether or not they should claim 1st time passes when they don’t have them. It shoudln’t need the ACCA to do this though. People should have the integrity to be straight with potential employers, and as such, their fellow professionals.

I assume that this doesn’t contravene any data protection regulations then?

If you’re not planning on being less than 100% honest, this shouldn’t be an issue. If this release of info isn’t part of ACCA’s standard Ts & Cs when you first register as a student (which I think it is), I would assume the prospective employer would ask you to sign an ‘authority to release’ type form. Any hesitation to complete this could well be interpreted negatively by the employer.

Mdam, I guess you are trying to pass an information here. Negative one though but I hope you are not just kidding around.

Be Faithful In Your Dealings.

Danol - February 10 2009 01:16 AM

Mdam, I guess you are trying to pass an information here. Negative one though but I hope you are not just kidding around.

I don’t understand this sentence at all. What does ‘pass an information’ mean?

The point of the thread was purely hypothetical, I never said that I intend, or need, to do it.

Mdam - February 10 2009 05:09 AM

The point of the thread was purely hypothetical, I never said that I intend, or need, to do it.

Can we check that with the ACCA

I think the “pass and information” statement is a first v’s second language issue.

Haha, thats really interesting, I wonder how the ACCA would reply to such a query. Im pretty sure they’d highlight us as one to watch for misconduct

There have been 2 or 3 people kicked out of CIMA for issues such as this.

1) A guy lied to his boss and forged papers saying he had passed exams
2) A guy was found sitting an exam with his notes
3) An asian guy was found guilty of getting someone else to sit his exam for him

Imagine ruining your career for something as stupid as one of the above reasons.